Hasan your history stops a little short for my liking. How about 1878, Russian army halted outside the walls of Constantinople by the guns of the British Naval Fleet and the risk of war with Western Europe. Don't confuse Greek History with that of Cyprus. Unlike Greece we were never in NATO. Unlike Greece we have always maintained a very close relationship with Russia. Unlike with Greece Russia has maintained that they will ensure the integrity of the Republic of Cyprus. So, you want to have a go now? Or in your delusionary 'state' do you really think Russia is scared of you too?

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Not wanting Turkey in EU is one thing, conflict is another.

Mikey oh Mikey,
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Greeks tried to teach Turks a lesson in early 1900s, when they were weakest yet they got their back sides kicked out from Anatolia.
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Greeks tried it again in Cyprus between 1963-1974, Greeks got their back sides kicked again. Till then 35 peacefull years with no blood shed.
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And yet it seems you have not learnt your lesson and still seek conflict while Turkey is much more powerful then ever before? I doubt you are dumb enough to really ask for conflict!
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Seems Greeks don't dare anymore and ask someone else to do their dirty work. Well I don't think Europeans are dumb enough to get in conflict with Turkey. Not wanting Turkey is one thing, conflict is another!
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The world has a responsibility to place more sanctions on Northern Cyprus, close it up completely, make it totally dependent on Turkey. At the same time place further restrictions and financial burdens on Ankara.

Turkey has demonstrated without a doubt that she cannot be trusted. A further demonstration has occurred in recent times with the Moslem leaning government of Turkey fraternising with European Union enemy states the likes of Iran. We have also seen Turkey turn against Israel. It is time that the EU member states moved their armed forces from NATO to a new European Union Treaty Organisation (EUTO). Only European States would be permitted to participate thus Turkey and her American backers would be denied membership. Unfortunately far too often the Americans side with Turkey at the expense of the likes of Cyprus and other European Union member states. One day the Americans may wake up to the fact that the Turks and their fellow Muslims cannot be trusted. Yes Turkey is a dangerous country that needs to be taught a severe lesson and needs to be weakened.

To a French tourist like me that eyesore says

Big Flag = Small manhood /womanhood

Turks who put that flag there and approve of it are childish and backward and living in the past.

Who cares anyway? Get a life Turks.

Mrs Pa...... or whatever her name is is helping the nationalist Turks get attention as to what real morons they really are, and the people of N. Cyprus to progress out from their lead to future Turkish disasterous adventures with the West.

No Taliban or Taliban symbols on Mountains here in Europe please, or we'll send them our western Armies with superior technology to deal with them and get rid of those Turkish pirates who put that hideous Islamic symbol up there (by the way the crescent is the symbol of Feminine Goddess, Holy Mary and the star, is an early symbol of the Star of Bethlehem, a Christian Symbol - I guess Mehmet II, (1412-1466) the rapist of Istanbul (1453) should have read his history books, or a smart mousie Greek History Teacher played a cruel trick on the him and his murderous and oppressive evil empire.

If Cypriots can't see past the flag issue then we are doomed.
The flag on Pentadaktylos is provocative and it definitely doesn't help towards the efforts of bringing the people together.
So the Turkish Cypriots need to decide what they love most...Cyprus or Turkey.
The Greek Cypriots have moved on and in 30 years time they managed to recover and succeed their entry in the EU. Believe it or not it is the same people,the refugees since '74, that worked their asses off to change this country to something better. The TurkishCypriots since 2004 enjoy the benefits of the Republic of Cyprus being a full EU member without even paying a penny towards the EU all these years.
How do you think the G/c feel when they see that their work and efforts all these years are actually being manipulated by the same people that support the illegal and unrecognised state in the North and serve the turkish interest? How do the T/c actually contribute towards peace when they only talk about their misery before and during 1974. In my frequent discussions with T/c i find that they always refer to the events between 1963 - 1974 and EOKA B but fail to understand that for 36 years now the G/c have suffered as well, they are not allowed to return and live at the places where they grew up, use their land, churches and find out what happened to their missing beloved ones. Do i need to mention that the G/c had also suffered in the events between 1963-1974 with hundreds of dead and missing? So i don't understand this blame game, who's to blame for the events in 63 and years that followed, when our country for 36 years now has been divided because of the turkish invasion and huge turkish military presence in the north. Stop living in the past and live in the present, try and visualise your country's future.
Don't you see that you are actually committing a crime against your compatriots by helping Turkey maintain its toops on the island and sustain the division between the people? I always listen to T/c saying that they don't wish the turkish army and wished they left but i don't see any efforts towards this direction.
How do you expect a young Greek Cypriot to be compationate and apologetic to the T/c for the events in 63(which he hasn't lived) when in 2010(the present) he can see with his own eyes the threat of the turkish occupation in the north? When he visits the occupied areas to see his parents house and feels like a stranger and not welcomed due to this alien presence of the turkish force.When he knows that his own people are still refugees and many were executed during the invasion and is unknown where they are burried? When he visits the occupied areas and sees the churches that were looted and turned into clubs, stables and storage places? When he knows that a part of his heritage has been destroyed due to the madness and hatred that some turkish feel against us? How can you expect from G/c to forgive and forget so easily when the turkish occupation is still present and the division is still on going? This is the reality of a young G/c nowadays, now tell me how are the G/c in 2010 committing any crime against the T/c when they allow them to be equal, enjoy the benefits of the Republic of Cyprus and have a european passport?
We should learn from the past and work for the future. You know what they say that those who fail to realise their past mistakes are doomed to repeat it. End this maddness now.

LENVENTI MY REPLAY TO YOU IS .
BETTER THE DEVIL YOU NOW THEN THE DEVIL YOU DONT!
IF ANY FLAGS ARE TO COME DOWN , ALL FLAGS OTHER THEN THE CYPRIOTS FLAG SHOULD COME DOWN IE THE FLAG OF GREECE TOO!
NOW INSTEAD OF THE SOUTH CYPRIOT GOVERNMENT BANGING ON ABOUT THE TRNC
WHY DONT THEY FOCUS ON SENDING AID TO THERE MOTHER LAND GREECE !
BEFORE PAKISTAN START SENDING THEM RICE TO EAT!
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John there is more to life than reading biased politics, you should watch cartoons, play video games, get out and have fun and then maybe you wouldnt be so uptight and all doom and gloom. Enjoy your life more, so some sports and stuff.

Isn't it time Cypriots learned to love their flag. Cyprus only has one true flag that represents all Cypriots...
It should be RESPECTED it is the only true symbol all Cypriots can relate to. What is more beautiful than Cyprus on a flag of peace with two olive branches. This flag should fly everywhere... true Cypriots would have put this flag on the mountains not a flag that belongs to someone else. It is a statement saying - Turkey owns cyprus and cyprus is turkish.

Those who put it there have imposed their will on the TCs to show them who is boss. The TRNC flag is just a mirror image of the Turkish flag.. are you inferior to the Turks of Turkey?... Turkey has played a big joke on you guys in the North and you have fallen for it. It is a symbol of there mastery over you and none of you can stand up to THEM instead you are submissive.

Cenk, this has got nothing to do with being a Greek or being a Turk. There are stupid Greeks as well as intelligent ones; just as there are stupid Turks and intelligent Turks. You just happen to be a bit obtuse – regardless of the fact that you are a Turk. If I were you, I'd stop watching cartoons and move on to reading.

IF THEY WANT THEY USE ECO FRIENDLY PAINT I CAN GIVE THEM THE COMPANY NAME!

Είστε ένας Κούρδος; Ή μήπως απλά Google; Ένα αστείο heh heh σας πρόσωπο.

Dave. I have to agree with your psychological appraisal of Cenk Hoca, who seems to forget that in Tom & Jerry, Tom – who he equates with Turkey – is thick, greedy and always ends up on the losing side, while Jerry – who he equates with Cyprus – is smart, versatile and always ends up outwitting the stupid cat. How revealing that CH thinks the cat is a Turk and the mouse is a Greek. If anybody else had suggested that the Turks were stupid, lazy and avaricious, then they would have been accused of racism; but we heard it from the horse's mouth, so to speak. If only you knew what an idiot you are, Cenk Hoca.

I dont see what all the fuss is about. We dont interfere with the Greece flag that is planted everywhere in the south from coffeshops to churches, schools ect. They dont have no right to interfere with our flag. If they have voted yes in the Annan plan then the flag was comming off, it will never happen now as the TC's are also turning to nationalism like their fellow GC's. Even Talat has started his election campaign with a more nationalist approach, imagine Eroglus campaign!

Anyone watch Tom and Jerry? Well South Cyprus is the mouse, Turkey is the cat and the EU is the bulldog Spike. I saw the cartoon the other day with Jerry walking with a plank of wood on his shoulder trying to get Tom to knock it down so Spike can have a go at Tom. Jerry is just a wind up merchant and the real trouble maker, so many times I feel sorry for Tom.
South Cyprus just has one big chip on their shoulder.

Btw if you dont like the flag, then dont look in that direction. But you know how Turks are sensitive about their flag, remember Solomon? Even the Leeds supporters that got killed a few years ago is because they used the Turkish flag like pretend toilet paper. Turks are a proud nation and they are fiercly proud of their flag. Even when children die in war, their parents say Vatan saolsun bayrak saolsun, long live the country and flag! They will even send their other children just to die for their flag! It might be nonsense to you but if you dont respect it, well thats your problem just dont show disrespect in front of Turkish Police or Army OR even passionate civilians.

Remember look the other way.

The Turkish Cypriots are not excluded from the EU. As citizens of the Republic of Cyprus, they are fully entitled to all the benefits; but the fact of the matter is that the TCs have excluded themselves – apart from those who've taken up RoC passports. As for Rehn, he was not popular with the GC side, regarded as far too willing to sacrifice Cyprus and EU principles for EU accession. Finland is, of course, one of the countries most in favour of Turkey joining the EU. But, Brookman, don't let the facts get in the way of your delusions.

Does anybody actually take Mr Rehn seriously?
His track record on Cyprus while Enlargement Commissioner is a matter of record. He was instrumental in excluding Turkish Cypriots from the EU, now he wants to interfere in the matters of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. The sooner he retires and stops meddling the better.

Dave@Joe Citezen@John Alexander Turkish haters.
One day
YOU WILL GET OVER IT.

So what are you saying Emir Soler. Their were greeks in Mongolia back in Cain and Abel time?
Which Annan are you talking about? because Denktash rejected FOUR Annan plans, and that was BEFORE the Republic of Cyprus entered the European Union, thus depriving the occupied north of EU membership. The FIFTH Annan plan, the one you keep bringing up in your arguments, was hailed at the time by Turkish commentators and politicians as "Turkey's plan", before they realised that as such it was not going to be accepted by Greek Cypriots, and they scaled their celebrations down.

Greek Cypriot author, Antonis Angastiniyotis.
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'The animosity between the Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots is not new. It didn't start in 1974, or in 1963, nor when the Byzantium Empire collapsed. It started much earlier; it started during the Cain and Abel period. The start of the animosity is in the hearts of the people and as long as it remains there, we will seek the opportunity to bury Cain's dead body or take revenge from Abel.

The purpose of writing this book is social, not political. However, it is not possible to avoid the political aspects of the events. The main aim is to address every Cypriot, especially the Greek Cypriots. Because I also learned to look at the political situation of Cyprus from this point of view.

Both the domestic tension created by the 24 April 2004 referendum with the aim of reunifying the island (Annan Plan) and my daily contacts with the world, takes me to only one conclusion. Extreme nationalism that is deeply rooted in peoples' hearts is the biggest obstacle for people to reconcile. For the situation to change permission must be given to explain the realities regarding the dark corners of history. It's not possible for people to clean their souls without regretting what they've done and it's not possible for them to regret what they've done without acknowledging their faults.

The majority of the Greek Cypriot youth know very little about the events that led to the island's division. The tragic events of 1974 have been used as a huge curtain to cover up the real events that led to the division of the two people. In our schools it has always surprised me that while talking about the heroism of EOKA, they skip 15-years and continue with 1974. Either nothing happened between 1960 and 1974, or no one wants to discuss this. While researching the events during this period (1960-74), I realized that the second choice was right.

I should add that no-one who really loves Cyprus would deface Pentadaktylos in the way the Turkish side has done. To despoil nature in this way is also an act of hubris, and the Turkish side should remember what happened to Xerxes when, on failing to cross the Hellespont to invade Greece, he ordered his slaves to take out his anger by whipping the sea.

“We came across the martyrs’ moment made of stone at the entrance of the village. On the monument the word UNUTMAM, the Turkish word for ‘ I DON’T FORGET’ is inscribed. The name of this village before 1974 was Sykhari.

After 1974 it was named ‘Tokhni’ ‘Tashkent’ the name of a Turkish village which is now in the South.

When we entered the village we met Mr Hamza Ethem (aged about 50), Mr Mustafa Sadık (aged about 70) and the schoolteacher of the village Mr Mustafa Aktunç (in his forties).

Our conversation with these people centred around events which took place on 14 August 1974 in Tokhni, when 83 Turkish Cypriot villagers who were massacred by the Greek Cypriots...”

This is the reason the flag exists , you may forget but Turkish Cypriots won't

To Marion Butler from Lapethos
You said:
"You were given full independence in 1960, so why not be proud to fly your own Flag instead of another Country’s" referring to the Cypriots that fly the greek flag.

You should have known by now that the Constitution states clearly that its citizens have the right to fly the Cypriot flag but also their nation's flag. So please don't go around saying this cause it's wrong.
"The Constitution - Appendix D: Part 01 - General Provisions Article 4" states that:
"Any citizen of the Republic or any body, corporate or unincorporate other than public, whose members are citizens of the Republic, shall have the right to fly on their premises the flag of the Republic or the Greek or the Turkish flag without any restriction. "
I think that answers your wrong opinion on the nation's flag issue.

Loriot: what planet are you from?The only place the 'TRNC' exists is in the imaginations of certain Turks and TCs. The whole world recognises the Republic of Cyprus as having sovereignty over the entire island – including Pentadaktylos. Indeed, are you not aware of the Orams ruling, which confirmed that for the EU the only legitimate authority in Cyprus is the Republic of Cyprus? And you do realise that if ever there is reunification, not only will GCs be 'interfering' with what goes on in northern Cyprus, but so will the EU, including Greece. Maybe you don't want reunification, and you prefer isolation, ridicule and the iron fist of Turkey; but in case you do want the occupation and TCs' isolation to come to an end, I wonder if you fully realise what this entails.

It's a strange, old regime that does things in order to 'get up the noses' of a perceived enemy, and indeed it doesn't really get up GC noses, who regard the flags as an absurd gesture that reveals the occupation regime for what it is – grotesque, inadequate, lacking in confidence, sad. Besides, the flags are there not just to remind the GCs of the occupation, but to let TCs know too who's in charge in northern Cyprus, in case they get any funny ideas.

And someone mentioned the Greeks from Karpasia, who were expelled from 1974-76. Thanks for proving my point about Orwellian newspeak. To suggest that these people left their homes and villages of their own accord rather than at the point of a gun is truly making a mockery of facts, history and language.

Clearly the big turkish flag is to compensate for the lack of something

DYPRUS MAIL ADVERTISING THE FLAGS IN PENTADAKTYLOS MOUNTAIN?

John Alexander from London (aka ROC propaganda dept.)comments:

'What the hell is the Kemalist Thought Association? Very Orwellian. But then the occupation regime is as 1984 as you can get. Here's some Turkish 'newspeak': peace operation for invasion; population exchange for ethnic cleansing; Turkish Cyprus for Turkish-occupied Cyprus; Greek Cyprus for the Republic of Cyprus; and so on.'

As far as ethnic cleansing is concerned, the GCs could have stayed where they were (as many in the Karpas/Karpasia did) they were not forced to move!
As one of the gaurantee powers they had the right to enter Cyprus after Greece had invaded and set up an illegal regime.
The UK also had that right but did nothing, much to the GC's displeasure. They couldn't get rid of us fast enough until they needed help which, thankfully we didn't provide. They made their bed and they should lie in it.

As the ROC 'president' is communist perhaps the Orwellian tag sits better on him!

Hassan, if that is your name, time to wake up and smell the coffee.

As a Cypriot of Turkish decent, I donot like the flag, I think it looks ugly and intimidating.

Turkish Cypriot hospitals lack medicine, equipment and specialists.

Money should be spend on these and not wasted on silly things like the biggest flag in the world.

Who cares?

More typical Cypriot pettiness. Concentrate on the serious matters as first priority.

I now live in the republic of Cyprus having moved here from England I now consider myself a Cypriot citizen of the republic, this is my new identity,I pay taxes here and support my local economy and community. Cyprus is for Cypriots not for the English, German or Russian like wise it does not belong to Greece or Turkey. Cyprus belongs to the people of Cyprus under the auspices of the EU. I hope we can move forward in unity with all the peoples of Cyprus and look to a prosperous future for all.