Dibi,

I Feel sorry for JLo, What Does She Say Ok hassan lets go into this Shop, or Christopher do you have a Particular Shop you want to go to, ??

It maybe marcus Who replies to her, You just never Know

TO Dave, You Missed What Happened

Christopher,

Just Now Suffering Personality problems, he Does not Know Who is ??

One minute he Is Christopher from America, Then He is HaSSan from Kyrenia, Then other personalities,

I think it Maybe Was his Job a Sparky, Maybe he Got to Much a Shock, Or he Stuck his Finger on a life Wire !!!

Who Knows What he Will be next,

Hi Dave. No I am referring to Christophe, unless your Christophe as well. He posted yesterday saying
Jim 'You better bring your Mum, there's a good boy.'

Mum is not an American word, they say Mom? Hence my comments.

Christophini

I noticed you used the word `Mum`in one of your postings - that's not very American. They say `Mom`. I knew you were a fraud! Why do you feel the need to pretend to be American -

Abide by international law...

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

@DAVE THE IMPALER

Why do you keep singing the same tune? I too am aginst Turkish EU membership! :-) Turkey's future lies with Kemalism not the Turkophobic EU! There you go again with the so-called genocide! Maybe you should watch the documentary known as "Sari-gelin: The True Story." What kind of recognition is that? the armenians and possibly greek lobbies pay bent politicians and governments, and produce photomontages such as blurring out the puppies next to Ataturk's feet and replacing them with dead human bodies, to get the world to recognise a distortion of history! if you want me to mourn the so-called genocide then you and your lobbies need to produce real evidence!

Kurds? It was mostly Kurds fighting the Armenian Nationalists/terrorists in WW1 in Eastern Turkey! please educate yourself boy! ;-)

Nikos Sampson aka Nikos Georgiadis said on Febuary 26 1981 "Had Turkey not intervened, I would not only have proclaimed Enosis. I would have annihilated the turks in cyprus as well"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikos_Sampson
You see it was distrubed individuals such as Nikos Sampson and Makarios who sent Turkey an invitation in 1974! Your no angels! Even your hero Sampson uses the word INTERVENED instead of the so-called term "invasion"! Face facts! EOKA failed to achieve ENOSIS(UNION WITH GREECE) at the cost of ALL Turkish-Cypriot lives!

@DAVE THE IMPALER

Who is denying our genetics?? who?? I for one always say that us Turks are TURKIC more linguistically and culturally than genetically! So what? this does not make us feel any less Turkic! Ataturk's famous phrase embraced this "Ne mutlu turkum diyene" "how great for one to call themselves turkish"!! Why do you always seek the samllest opportunity to vomit that mouldy propaganda of yours? "for their suffering"! I told you, I need evidence! NOT photomontages, Lobbying tactics, anti-turkism propaganda tactics! but instead EVIDENCE! Innocent until proven guilty!

"GUL, ERDOGAN AND CO" Do not represent Turkey/Turks! AKP is a joke and CHP will more than likely win the elections next year! What you need to understand my darling is that the EU is a bias trading bloc! I repeat, a bias trading bloc! Turkey is partially geographically located in Europe whether you like it or not! more so than our problematic EASTERN/ASIAN island known as Cyprus! Do you think TURKS suffer with some kind of inferiority complex?? who wants to join the EU? and suffer the same fate as Greece? who? and don't tell me Europe is highly cultured as the greatest atrocities of mankind took place in the heart of Europe e.g. the dark-ages, the holocaust, Bosnian genocide!

My God Dave the trivia you read?

@DAVE THE IMPALER

I have nothing against greek-cypriots and I am sure that Turkish-cypriots are genetically close to them! I don't need some scientific individual/research project to tell me that! I just need to look in the mirror or look around me for the evidence! :-) However, my genetics don't stop me feeling any less Turkish! I mean you just said your half English and yet you behave ALL GREEK! Why are TURKS in general always seen as the culprits? I am NOT against greek-cypriots but against their politics! If we are so close to you genetically then why do hate me so much my dear brother? :-( I thought BLOOD was thicker than water?

Dave. Sorry to tell you but ancient Greece has little connection to Modern Greeks. Check it out for yourself on the internet.

Modern Greeks are just born to live under occupation.

Turkish ancestry stretches from Hungary to Japan. Infact there are many Turkic forums and discussion groups, global events.

Regardless of your racist rants we are proud of our eastern heritage
as are Hungarians and Finns

Emir Soler from KFC, not that its any of your business but i'll tell you anyway. My mums english thats why the name Dave. but you're half right my older brothers name is nick or nico.
So what is an ottoman turk ? So tell me what nationality were your elite Janissaries ?

Niko from Haringay = DAVE THE IMPALER
Are you shamed of your name? why do Greeks are always hide behind others?
Coming to DNA of Cypriot, you do come up with some shyte dont you?
Greeks in Cyprus are more Arab than Greek from Greece.
Greeks from Greece hate Greek Cypriots anyway, thats why they call you Cyprus Donkeys.
Coming to Turks, we are %100 Ottoman Turks.
Now, you got that?

Nice story mustafa,
Selim II (who ruled from 1566 to 1574), known also as “Selim the Sot”, a notorious drunkard, sent an army to capture Cyprus as the stocks of his favourite Cyprus wine needed replenishing. He got his wine, but only after massacring 30,000 Christians in Nicosia and Famagusta . The west’s reaction to the invasion of Cyprus was unprecedented. A massive and well-appointed fleet was formed under the command of Don Juan of Austria, a bastard son of Charles V. He sighted the Ottoman fleet off Lepanto (Navpaktos) on the Gulf of Patra , in western Greece . In the ensuing carnage, up to 200 of the Turkish ships were sunk or captured, The largest number of sinking in any sea battle. The naval museum in Madrid has a splendid gallery devoted to the victory of Lepanto.

Dibi, funny how you turks forget the worthlessness of your own turkish lira,
1966 — 1 U.S. dollar = 9 lira
1980 — 1 U.S. dollar = 90 lira
1988 — 1 U.S. dollar = 1,300 lira
1995 — 1 U.S. dollar = 45,000 lira
1996 — 1 U.S. dollar = 107,000 lira
2001 — 1 U.S. dollar = 1,650,000 lira
2004 — 1 U.S. dollar = 1,350,000 lira
2007 — 1 U.S. dollar = 1.26 new lira (New Turkish Lira, which drops 6 zeros from the currency)

TC girl, just for your info on the matter of lineage. In 1990 samples from 116 Turkish Cypriot, 303 Greek Cypriot, 235 mainland turks and 174 mainland greeks were tested in the US by professor Huisman. Genetic illness and DNA expert Dr. Erol Baysal with the assistance of english, turkish, cypriot and greek experts conducted the work, and found that the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot DNA was very close. Even though the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot see the mainland as there genetic source they are very far apart and also very different and that certain codes in the DNA which can only be found in cypriots was conclusive proof that Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot were the only ones that have this DNA.
Even though it was always assumed that Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot were close this showed they were much closer than could be anticipated.

Yinnis yannis - At least we have ruled ourselves for thousands of years. Unlike Greece (who pooed their pants when Turkey invaded)
Greece has only had 50 years of self rule. Even thats gone now its owned by Germania, debt ridden and bankrupt

Please read the "Imprisonment and later years" section for a very important 1981 speech!

Turkey did what she had to do! That is why the super-powers never stopped her from intervening because she had every political and moral right to intervene in 1974!

Also if the UN/USA wanted Cyprus to unite then they would have sealed the deal a very long time ago! The island of Cyprus has nothing to offer the US or Western Europe so why would they focus their energy in uniting the Island?? Like Ecevit (God Rest his soul) said "the Cyprus issue ended in 1974"! (Paraphrasing).

So bombarding the world with your anti-turkism crap will not unite the island, eradicate turkish-cypriots, or lead to the removal of the mainland Turkish-Troops in the north!

i think you should put aside such nonsense such as "coz i'm turkish, i'll never accept that turkey can never do wrong" or "coz i'm g.cypriots cyprus can never do wrong". i dont take sides like that. i look for the truth, and thats not easy where cyprus is concerned coz there is so much bias. some of the bias is very clever so you dont even realise that the material your reading is blatantly one sided, so what i try to do is to keep bearing that in mind when i'm reading.

i have to ask you emir, exactly what is it about my comments that make you think i'm JT? i'm all for lifting the emabargo on the north and i have said so in this forum many times, so please enlighten me, how on earth do you think i am JT?

I love the way Helenne Christoph and friends are following JLO's shopping habits.

Same old, same old regurgitated stories, lies...... still nothing changes. Turkey is in the G20 and is a regional power. Greece is a sad bankrupt state whose soldiers wear pleated skirts and pom pom shoes. The answer to the Cyprus problem for her supporters is to obsess abt JLO.

Helenne Christoph ans his alter ego's blame the Turks, the Brits, neolethic man everyone accept the scared shitlesss greeks.

Lets not forget ancient Greeks and modern Greeks have no historical link. That belongs to Macedonia, Bulgaria.

@ John Alexander from London.

I just spit my coffee on my keyboard thanks to you! LMFAO in Toronto.

Jennifer Lopez was advised about the horrendous atrocities committed by the Turkish pigs. In a recent CNN report she claims the event was booked without her consent or knowledge. She was quoted as saying “I would not knowingly appear in an occupied nation” she further stated, “Especially for people with such a poor human rights record” When asked about her thoughts on the possibility of reunification of the island nation she declined comment. She did mention she would love to perform for the Cypriot people if invited. She was asked whether Turkey should be a member of the EU she angrily said, “For the love of God that should never be allowed to happen. The Turks are sub-human and should never be allowed to spread their hatred towards women and their mafia ways throughout Europe” When asked about her legal problems related to her most recent non fulfillment of contract, she laughed and refused to comment.
She recently fired her ill advised and, greedy manager. Reports from CNN confirm he was enrolled in an undisclosed college, taking a course (at her expense) related to world history.

You can read the full CNN report with Anderson Cooper at
http://www.cnn.com/

BTW I get a kick out of the Turks and their futile attempts at somehow assimilating themselves with western society, especially the Turks living abroad! You guys take the cake. What you don’t realize, is that you’re all a bunch of peasants! Remember, your stench follows you, even when you live in the UK!! Lol

"Also you can understand How the UN have had enough of 36 years of BLAH BLAH."

What a daft comment!

The UN should put its actions where its mouth is…

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

It is not the UN that is fed up with Cyprus but Cyprus fed up with the corrupt UN! Idiot!

I think the Turks need to worry about Kurdistan. There is overwhelming evidence that independence is not a matter of if rather when.

A free Kurdistan will absorb at least 1/3 of Turkey. This is inevitable, irreversible, just and unavoidable. Get used to it.

Christoph can you stop promoting your drag act The Hellenes!

MichaelA.

You are getting carried away. What is this hate towards Turks ?

Have you ever been to Shippley in Yorkshire or Norris Green Liverpool or Moss Side Manchester?

So don't tell us all the Turks are drug dealers and murderers.

By the way who killed Ian Tomlinson?

I suggest you ask the British police.

Denktash doing his Don Rickles imitation. LOL

excuse me emir, can you clarify ehat you just said about me? i'm JT??

dont make me laugh

... yes Solar and then I can massacre unarmed men, women and children with impunity. Unless of course, it a "stronger" nation like your old chums the Israelis. Then they they massacre your men, women and children, and Hoja Edogan goes back crawling on all fours to ask forgiveness!

MichaelA wish he was part of huge strong Turkish nation.

MichaelA - you STUPID Greek. What makes you think, looking at my location, that I am a waiter working in a bar.
You might have seen my comments in the CM about the English School from where I graduated in 1958 after which I came to the UK.
I am now a comfortable retired businessman living partly in London and partly in my Penthouse apartment in Kyrenia with views of the sea and Five Finger mountain.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Most of these comments are off subject, usual boring stuff.
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Sticking to the subject of this article, how can the German Foreign Minister be so naive and compare the unification of Germany to that of Cyprus. It is unbelievably stupid. People in East and West Germany were all German. South Cyprus is Greek Cypriot, North Cyprus is Turkish (to include TCs and settlers), and they are enemies. One is trying to rule the other, claiming sovereignity over the other's region, and having a history of wishing to unite the island with altogether a different country by force of arms.
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Herr Westerwelle, go back to school, you do not deserve to be Foreign Minister of a great country like Germany.

Jimmy McNulty is hiding his ID he is JT Turkish hater.

.. Dibi, I know, BUT its sort of an argument among a Christian European family, of which Turkey can never be part of. Think of Germans and French as Papa and Mama, and Greece as the naughty teenager.

..... yes Soler, he would have to have major facial reconstruction to look like Jack Palance from Attila the Hun, and maybe he would have to carry a knife and stab somebody at the bus stop over queue pushing, and also murder his own daughter if she dared to talk to someone that he disapproved of, and sell drugs on the street, ......

Yes I'm sure there are many people who are gagging to be Turkish.

MELIOS A. IOANNIDES@
Turkey didn’t invade Cyprus; Turkey was invited by Greece and Nikos Samson.
Turkey, saved the Turkish Cypriots from extermination as well as Greeks, from EOKA thugs

Michael A at least Turkey came to save us not like Greece which shat herslf.

What good has the EU done to Greece and Cyprus. Both bankrupt

If the Germans and French could kick the Greeks out of the EU they would. Afterall there taxpayers have had to bail them out to the tune of 700 billion. German press talked abt the lazy greeks!

Ozil, your posts shine a very ugly light on the Turks. Your right, the occupying force is not going to give up anything. It never planned to. Its pointless talking to Turks. But you are right right, Turks are terrible, that'e why nobody wants them in the EU. And maybe the price of a partition of this island, is that Turkey will never be let in. They know that, and so do we.

To all greeks here on this forum, your favourite pastime is to talk about how terrible the we (Turks) are - you're only happy when you are moaning. The writing is already on the wall for you - you aint getting anything at the negotiating table or on the battlefield. I sleep easy at night knowing how displeased you all are with the situation - you should all be kicking yourselves.....97% of the island wasn't enough for you. Now you live with the consequences.

Feelings mutual John.

Does using western names apply to you John or shall I call you Yannis or Yannagimu?

Me very sad reading all this bullshit. I thinking Turkey making big mistake attacking Cyprus 1974. We very stupid peoples. We have the worst human rights record on planet and we very proud.. We are in no position to asking for forgiveness from Cypriot peoples. While it is true our women are treated like shit and we making the world thinking we tolerate the Jews and Kurds we are generally good peoples....when we sleeping. The reality is we don't care about anyone, we Turkish peoples thinking about us and only us. We taking over the Europe soon. Recently the US no happy with us I say after taking over the Europe we tell the US to go to hell. We pray 5 times per day and we asking more like begging God to allow us to join the EU. We need to making new friends and money. I know the Germany peoples are sick and tired of us Turkish pigs but we promise if joining the EU we be good peoples….when we sleeping. When we joining EU we plan on taking over the Europe. We spread our sperm and mafia ways everywhere. We doing it now on smaller scale but imagine we members of EU. We screwing the entire EU...me can't wait for this day happening. You hear it here first from Mustafa.
Me educated in Turkey and proud of it English very good no? You thinking my English is not so good just looking at this guy Jimmy McNulty. He writing wanna when he should be writing "Want to" maybe he coming from USA or some other Country where they speaking very funny hillbilly English. Me jealous of Cypriot peoples they educated and intelligent. We never be same educated or intelligent peoples like Cyprus peoples. This problem with the DNA makeup of Turkish peoples. One very prominent Germany doctor saying this result of too much in breeding. Me thinking he is correct. My uncle is also my father me thinking this Germany doctor very intelligent and he understanding our ways. Anyway me going to my balcony now reading book and catching some rays. I leaving all this talk to you intelligent peoples.

Germany is not Cyprus! East germany was communist,West germany capitalist,but they are all german, just in the west they lived better off and many east germans defected. Cyprus is greek and turkish,but that might also not be so now,so many Soviets and Arabs on Greek side. But also there are many turkish cypriots living in Limassol,more than Greek cypriots,they might not know that! OOOpppsss....Cyprus should be for people,that like the island,not that want to hide on the island.

Christoph has probably never left Haringey!

Lies all lies Christoph! Read this paper - emergency budget meetings, Cyprus to loose its grading for international loans, Cyprus on supervision by EU. Racism in ROC!

Sure Turkey - who saved us while Greece shat its pants pays us money
and now they are building us a new water pipeline and electric under the sea.
Greece couldn't even deliver the stuff in a ship!

Its true, we are finding our feet, But we will succeed. The world will eventually recognise us in some form. Thats good enough for most of us. So yeah Shangri bloody lah ehh!

Funny, for the side that is 'decaying' a lot of your Turk Cypriot 'brothers' cross everyday to work in the south Dibi. The dark little secret is that MANY Turk Cypriots work in the south, because there are few jobs in the north. If you're not slinging chips at one of the casinos or on the Turkish 'baksheesh' government dole you're not doing too well in 'TRNC'. Turkey pays close to $ 1 Billion/year to keep 'TRNC' afloat, and recent cutbacks have most of your civil servants threatening a strike. Hardly Shangri La, eh???

It isn't how you lobby Tukish-Cypriot Girl, it's the message you're trying to convey. Not even AIPAC was able to sell the myth of 'Turkish Tolerance' to our Congress, when the Jews were friendly to the Turks. Now, of course, that friendship is ending due to Erdogan's big mouth. Turks are their own worst enemies, they can't change who they are or what they've done. It's your history, live with it!

For every author who slurs one nation or another, I can quote other prominent writers who do the same in the opposite direction. So what! Select proof or the pretense of it works both ways.
What people like J.A. do not want to understand or to admit is that the past is just that: history.
Decisions of today are based on facts of today, and no wish to return to ancient times will come true. Everything moves ahead according to the status quo and not the status quo ante.

Alex? Who's Alex? Take a deep breath, Dibi. You're losing control-again and hearing voices.

We are never leaving Cyprus. Cry and scream all you want, oh yellow
spineless, ones. Christoph you and Alex should get together. You could then become Greek by marriage.

Alex .... Yawn who cares. We have Cyprus, thats all.

Tara

Ha ha Ha - See Ya wouldnt want to be ya!

I know, Dibi! But to leave this forum to nut cases like Christopher is also not the answer.

Jimmy: The Cyprus Conspiracy is not a bad book and you are right to infer from it the existence of long-standing plans by Turkey, the US and UK for the partition of Cyprus. Christopher Hitchens in his book Cyprus: Hostage to History, spells this out more succinctly; while you can read Perry Anderson's essay, The Divisions of Cyprus, here – http://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n08/perry-anderson/the-divisions-of-cyprus. It's a quite brilliant analysis from one of Britain's most renowned historians.

And the Salonika Jews were not sent to their deaths by Greeks. This is a stupid remark. In fact, the leading British historian of the time, Mark Mazower – with Greek-Jewish antecedents – has noted that Greece, after Denmark, had the best record of defending its Jews against the Nazis. Indeed, at the time Greeks were saving Jews from the gas chambers, Turkey was adopting Nazi-style laws, such as the Varlık Vergisi, which was aimed at confiscating the property of Jews, Greeks and Armenians and sending those who could not pay this tax to forced labour camps.

As for the barbarism or otherwise of the Ottoman empire, the Turks, according to Dostoyevsky, are a 'nation steeped in lies and villainy, which denies the atrocities it has committed'. And the great Russian writer said this in 1876 – i.e. before all the pogroms, genocides and barbaric invasions that Christoph refers to.

I'm sorry for confusing you with my background, Loriot. I realize you were born and raised in 'Pigs Hollow', north Cyprus. Talking about anything other than that colloquial existence probably confuses and frightens you.

Christopher, the guy with genes from around the world. In addition to Greek ancestors, who lost their donkeys in Cyprus, he now admits to having Ottoman roots. No wonder he is confused!

as usual this degenerates into a farce, so i'm gonna carry on reading my book on my balcony and catch a tan :)

Jimmy, no problem. I can spot a typo when I see one. In case of Christopher it is usually not typo, but brain-no!

I did not know, Christopher, that you own this forum. Having halluzinations? Consult a psychiatrist!

@Christoph

Are you telling me that after 600 years of non-muslim tolerance the ottomans woke up one day and decided to kill armenians?? the armenians caused a national uprising during WW1! many Turkish citizens died in WW1 (including many turks). You know what I have realised you greek and armenian nationalists always attack turkey at specific moments. for example by WW1 the Ottoman Empire had dissolved and turkey was under attack by many nations so you therefore felt you the green light to unite against turks! now it is 2010 the "Israel and Turkey marriage" is going through some domestic issues and again you feel you have the green light to attack turkey but this time with propaganda instead of guns, knives, and other weapons! why do you that?? i find that really strange!

It is all about money,  give enough money to Greek Cypriots and North Cyprus will be a forgotten memory. Human rights and morale, ha ha!

He is saying Kosovo was always majority Albanian unlike in the northern parts of Cyprus were there was a Greek majority before...

nah, just quick typo

nah y you offering yourself :) ?

@Jimmy McNulty

Are you greek-cypriot?? or are you married to one??

Try reading 'The Greek Upheaval', it's a far better book than 'The Cyprus Conspiracy' on describing the events in 1974. Finally, read 'the mechanism of catastrophe' by Speros Vryonis, it's the definitive book on the events leading up to the 1955 anti-Greek Pogrom in Istanbul-it shows the level of hatred and depravity by the regime in Turkey against ethnic minority groups.

Don't overvalue statements made by the German foreign minister. Mr Westerwelle is barely holding on to his job in a coalition marred by internal fights. Since joining the government, the foreign minister's party has lost two third of its supporters and may not even enter parliament next time round.
His opinions have as much shelf life as green broccoli.

still reading the book "cyprus conspiracy"....would like to know morew about this man martin packard of the british military and why, when he was doing such a good job of keeping the peace, this man was removed from his role..i found this link on the matter.............http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Treason3.htm

DIBI, I have lost hope because of people like you who are always into hate . If you hate Greek people so much and you feel that you cannot live in a united country then there is not much point in in persuing the isue any further.

SERDAR, its nice to hear a Turkish voice of reason. PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO SPEAK UP AND OTHER TC WHO SHARE YOUR VIEWS. We have been bombarded with such negative comments from people like Ozil et al that we now feel that there are no reasonable Turkish people . Show me that I am mistaken in my view . I really would like to be wrong in this case.Nothing would give me more joy then for Cyprus to be a united federal republic in which TC AND GC can live together in peace and harmony. I NEED SOME ENCOURAGEMENT to believe that there are people in nortern Cyprus who also really want this to happen.

Val - how sad that you consider people on an international flotilla to be Turkish Hamas terrorists. These people were trying to deliver aid to Palestinians who against World opinion has blocked all entry points into Palestinian territories. They were alonng with several other ships from different countries trying to deliver food aid. They were in international waters when attacked by Israeli troops.
Please do not negate the suffering of the palestinian people in chep point scoring.

Michaela alias JT, now joined by Val: you must all have a tremendous chip on your shoulders. Your howling and slurring just shows that you are on losers' avenue, having lost all reasonable arguments.
Accept the facts: tiny irrelevant Cyprus as well as corrupt and bankrupt Greece are no match for Turkey.

Sorry guys; but we're determined to reunite our beloved island.
The Cypriot reunification sceptics and TRNC clappers can enjoy a new life in Kosovo if they want their dreams come true.
There won't be a promising future for violators and lawbreakers in the island of Cyprus.

Ozil, your attitute is that people should be down trodden and denied what is rightfully theirs. This is more exammples that the Turks are psycopathic with a very strong tendency to murder people who are less in number and have no means of protecting themseves. Its hardly heroic to stand up to a little country of less then one million when you are over 70 million.It was the same with the Armenians of Anatolia . They were much fewer then the Turks and they were cornered by your army and what followed was one of the most obscene episodes in history, a crime that was so awful that Turks are too ashamed to admit to it.They should come clean, it might help them to find a cure for their psychooathic behaviour.Interesting to note that when it came to facing up to Israel after the Israelis dealt with the Turkish Hamas terrorists, the Turks soon backed off and resorted to a more softly softly approach because this time they knew they were faced with a modern army and not a few unarmed civilians. The Turks might be good at shooting a few stone throwing Kurds , commiting genocide against unarmed civilians or threatening a li ttle country like the ROC but they wouldn't dare try anything on Israelbecause they know that Israel would hit them back.Typical Turkish bullies, hit the weak but run awy from the strong!Some friendly advice: as a nation you should really undergo psychotherapy then perhaps one day you might be considered well enough to join Europe.

Ozil, Your a population of 80m, that have managed in your history to exterimate a few million others, been of welfare for decades, and what have you got to show for it? A country that is in all sense of the word, Third World. Yes you have military, but you attack unarmed countries. Very amusing to see old Hoja Erdogan, crawling back to Israel after the Gaza debacle. If Europe didn't have preferential trade deals with Turkey, you would still be riding the donkeys and cooking from wood fires. The question is why have you achieved so little. True, Turkey will never get in the EU. Its not because of Cyprus, is that no other country wants to be burdened with a poor, backward, unenlightened Islamic theocracy. ps Dentkatsh, can the old murderer travel abroad? Or is he wanted by the Hague Court.

How funny it is to read how the greek psyche works - massive big chip on their shoulders, huge ego and an incurable complex about their history. You got, and are getting, everything you deserve. South Cyprus is less then 1m people, yet they act as if they are centre of the universe. Your politicians have been fooling you for all these years, telling their flock they will return, only for their politically motivated intensions. Direct trade will come to north cyprus and we will prosper, Turkey will not go into the EU, no land returned, and compensation is through the IPC. End of story. Greek side won't even get Varosha. We can hold onto that indefinitely. Annan plan was closest you got to getting anything substantial. Looks like Denkatsh was right all these years - Papadopolous must be turning in his grave - he was EOKA  anyway. Long live TRNC

The best solution is the example of Kosovo.

.. slight flaw in the German thinking. Unification was between people separated by WWII. As is evident throughout Europe, Turks are unable to integrate. Visit any ghetto, and you get the picture. Horrible. Its not their fault, its just the way they are.

This is WHO YOU ARE!!

http://web.deu.edu.tr/kibris/history/6474.html

J T

I would suggest you stop talking of “uneducated and illiterate” people, when you do not know, how to use Capital letters at the appropriate point in a sentence.

As soon as direct trade is implemented - it all OVER! Nobody cares what little greece and cyprus think - they have no power, no influence. They just good at moaning...moan moan moan.

kosovo is a western thin g since when were you inthis category?
this is like a taster for ytou to lick your lips and taste the sour grapes............yuk....

Western Gernmany after the war and the forcefull split of the country as a result of the defeat,its leaders knew how to go about with their foreign policy and even joined the Western Alliance.
Turkey that was neutral during world warII,realised the potentials of joining the West and apart of the economic gains and the alliance security umbrella,managed to become a major player in politics in the whole region,even giving it such leverage that with the blessing of the West invaded and ocuppied Northern Cyprus.
If,Makarios in his wisdom could see beyond his personal ambitions,I am sure,Cyprus could have never expirienced invasion and military occupation.
This is our difference with Germany as far as politics are concerned.