One more thing I would like to say. I believe that people who write comments on this site should stop bitching to each other and about each other and start building bridges between themselves. Neither Greece, Turkey, the British or the Americans want us to be United. They used and continue to use the oldest propaganda game in the world, which is to divide and rule and that is what they have been doing for over 40 years, not only here in Cyprus but other parts of the world as well. I say over 40 years as the British, along with the Americans in stealth mode, have done this with extreme success.

Just a little bit more of history to explain how the Americans along with the British have achieved this. Back in 1948 the British wanted to leave Cyprus and abandon their bases as they had bases in Egypt. But the Americans back then told the British to stay as they had to protect the Americans, British and other European countries interest in the Middle East, that is the Oil. What the British and the French did not know at he time is that the Americans had already put into motion for Nasser to come into power in Egypt and had already made agreements with him to oust the British and the French from Egypt, hence the Sues War in the fifties. How many Cypriots know that at that time in our history over 30,000 French troops passed through Cyprus on their way to Egypt to fight along side the British?

Again I say that we should, I mean Cypriots and real Cypriots at heart no matter if you are Greek speaking or Turkish speaking stick together and become real brothers as in the end whether we like it or not we are only Cypriots and nothing else. We are not Turkish and we are definitely not Greeks. I am a Cypriot and I am proud of this fact as all Cypriots should be. I say to all foreign powers, British, Greece, Turkey and the Americans leave us alone and let us finally be able to live in peace and unity with each other.

I have lived in the UK since 1957 and i have also been a volunteer in the Greek Cypriot army from 1973 till 1975. And yes i had to fight during the 1974 invasion on the front lines, thank God I was not hurt. I experienced many scenarios during my 2 years in the army in Cyprus. the fanaticism of the Greek Officers from Greece and our own percentage of Greek Cypriot community in the Army, but not all Greek Cypriots agreed with the Greek Officers or the Greek Cypriot fanatics bent on achieving Enosis with Greece at any cost. this period of my life was extremely sad and left many scars in my mind as to how humans can become so bitter and twisted and have so much hatred between themselves, that was put there by a minority and not how the majority of Cypriots really felt and believed.

All I knew back in the UK is that apart from the extremist from both communities we lived together, Greek and Turkish Cypriots, and loved each other as we were first Cypriots in our hearts, that is the Greek speaking and Turkish speaking Cypriots in the UK. I have many Turkish Cypriot friends back in the UK. I say back in the UK since for the last 4 years I have moved back to Cyprus and sadly to say many Cypriots have still not been able to see that we can only move forward and upwards together. I must also say that i have Turkish Cypriot friends in the occupied Northern part of Cyprus as well who have moved back. But sadly to say more Turkish Cypriots have moved off the Island than are still living in Cyprus. This is why our Turkish Cypriots brothers have become a minority in our own country. I say to some of the Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots stop acting like you are God and accept that we must all live in Cyprus together in peace and prosperity.

What frightens me the most is our politicians here in Cyprus on both sides. They are puppets of both Greece and Turkey and some even puppets of the British and the Americans. There can never be Enosis with Greece as this also can never be for the Turkish Cypriots with Turkey. So lets start looking to the real future which is we want it to be and become. We, together, can be the envy of all countries that are in the Mediterranean Sea, as we could have been if not for outside interference.

I say to my real Turkish Cypriot Brothers come forward and stand together with the real Greek Cypriots, and be Cypriots together, who want pace and are proud of being Cypriots together. Don't you all believe that enough time has gone by to heal all the wounds that had been created by both communities?

No comment from the GC propaganda dept on the mail referring to the Greek Cypriot author Antonis Angastiniyotis? The silence is deafening!

Obviously correct when he says that period between 1963 and 1974 does not exist in the mindset of GC,s.

Most appear to be more interested in the Kurds in Turkey; Why?

zig go back to looking after your sheep and make sure you dont lose your RoC passport otherwise you wont be able to travel to Cyprus. I guess you keep the identity element a secret. Cyprus is and will always belong to the Cypriots not any other outside 3rd party. turkey wants to keep the Cyprus card in order to gain for herself forward steps towards the membership of the eu.

THANKS Kyriacos Roumbas
The first bit off sense written in a long time we should all take note from people like you and move on .
trixi

Kyriacos, very good Article, Wish more people like you came forward

I was interested to hear a new bulletin this morning. Ban Ki-Moon warned African leaders not to change their country's constitution in order to maintain power. What a pity that U Thant had not acted on this kind of advice in 1963.

not entirely sure but i yhink around 1400 is the number. is that enough?

The Cyprus problem can only be resolved if the Cypriots are left to discuss and resolve their differences rather than having turkey as an putsider who is simply looking after her own interests in chasing membership in the eu. turkey knows that the Cyprus problem is lost yet tries to prolong the unification etc....as time is valuable and strategic areas change globally. turkey aspirations to gain membership in the eu is the ultimate goal as its the path of gold and hopefully will rid the kurds within turkey to other eu destinations etc...the tc's have been fed codswallop and have taken the bait in full. the tc's like zig use the RoC passport to move freely globally, hk has said something that makes sense and that is to sit down and rid Cyprus of the turkish mainlanders who are causing much grief in the occupied areas. the reason the problems have remained unsolved is denktash who wants to turn Cyprus into another Constantinople. but guess what God is great and hasnt allowed denktas' wishes to fruition. by the way all denktashs' grandchildren and eroglus studying in the UK have all got RoC passports, thast right all of them.Why?? because they want free education in the UK and want to be recognised as trnc, even denktash and eroglu have RoC passports because the trnc passports are available to buy in liddies toy stores, and they are now on sale on a buy one get one free.

yiannis savvides I bet she does not know about your vitriol comments in the forums. Perhaps I should point her in that direction – this is a small place you know. Greeks baering gifts spring to mind.

Message to TRNC for ever.

This is a very racist phrase and reminds me of Third Reich.

Hitler thought Third Reich was for ever and will live for two thousand years. We all know how it all ended.

My father was an active member of TMT and on a recent interview with Havadis Gazetesi he called for TCs and GCs to live together in peace.

I suggest TRNC FOREVER from Famagusta to look at this article.

http://havadiskibris.com/KIBRIS/2820-Kemal-Hasan-Abdullah.html

The Star@ "educated & moderate Turk (if you can find one)"
KOPEK GAVUR
my dad used to tell me.
"Gavurdan dost domuzdan post olmaz"

John Alexander you are f'ing SICK

Greek Cypriot daily, POLITIS Yankos Mikellidi
None of these psychopath murderers was put into prison. None of them were taken in front of the international court of Lahey, neither their leaders, who gave them these orders. I wonder who was teaching the Greek Cypriot villagers living in the region to kill the Turkish villagers?
Who turned these people into animals and fascists believing to the superiority of Hellen race and Orthodox religion? Naturally, the Orthodox Christian Church of Cyprus and the Head of the Church, III. Makarios. The establishment of EOKA and its political organization PEKA, secondary schools and a press controlled by Archbishop Makarios through money.
Most of these murderers, who are aged now, live amongst us as ‘prestigious’ peoples. Their leader is also living and is governing the Cyprus like in those days. These people are Tasos, his group and the young national fascists who are the children of these murderers.
November 2006, Nicosia. The masked pupils, who are the grandchildren of 60s masked people, attacked their Turkish friends at British School, known as the Oxford of Cyprus. This school is the school of elite Greek Cypriots. Think of that school, it is a place, where every Cypriot dream to be and where the newly rich Cypriots’ children are studying. It is the school, where Cypriots are competing to enter. They attacked the Turkish Cypriot students by claiming that they denied the mystic and holy meaning of the Cross. They used the Cross not as a symbol of love but as a symbol of hatred, nationalism and murder. The children of murderers of 1963s, with the same leaders, the Orthodox Church, Tassos and his group; did exactly the same thing. They attacked the dirty Turks in order to understand the meaning of being a Hellen Orthodox Greek Cypriot. Later the same events, which was experienced in Ay Vasili in 1963 were repeated. Two-faced nonsense and stupid events. Nonsense statements by the President. Nothing will happen today. As nobody was punished in 1963 , nobody will be punished today. In one of my interviews, I said most of the Cypriots are dirty, most people protested. Unfortunately they are not right . We are dirty. We do not take lessons from our experiences and we do not broaden our horizons. We, including our leadership and the pupils in the British School tend to act like the ones in 1963. Not all of us but most of us are dirty!!!
Same daily (Politis) published an article written by the Director of the Greek Cypriot Intercollage Research Center Andreas Theofanus entitled, “Can Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots Live Together?”. The article said that the solution of the Cyprus issue would include lots of benefits for the Turkish Cypriots but the main argument was that up to what extent the Greek Cypriots would accept these privileges and benefits for Turkish Cypriots.

Hello Hassan Kemal
I don't know Turkish, so what exactly am I supposed to be looking for. But I agree with you,the importation of Turkish settlers to change the demographic character of Cyprus is disgraceful and a war crime and indicates how important it is for the Turkish occupation of Cyprus to end. But what do you want me to do? To accept the Turkish Cypriot version of events regarding Cyprus, not challenge the nonsense TCs come out with, worry about offending TCs, indulge Turkish Cypriot paranoia and racism? Is this what you want from GCs? Is this the price you are asking GCs to pay for reunification? Reunification can't be built on lies and myths.

Hello John Alexander,

Have a look at this paper.

http://www.yeniduzen.com/

All these people you see in line are for TRNC citizenship.

This is what Mr Eroglu dishing out.

2 more years and GCs will be joining TCs as a minority on our island.

GREEK CYPRIOT AUTHOR EXPLAINS GREEK CYPRIOT ATROCITIES

Greek Cypriot author, Antonis Angastiniyotis
The majority of the Greek Cypriot youth know very little about the events that led to the island's division. The tragic events of 1974 have been used as a huge curtain to cover up the real events that led to the division of the two people. In our schools it has always surprised me that while talking about the heroism of EOKA, they skip 15-years and continue with 1974. Either nothing happened between 1960 and 1974, or no one wants to discuss this. While researching the events during this period (1960-74), I realized that the second choice was right.

When I started to write this research, my cousin from Greece and her two daughters came to visit me and we started to discuss the events of 1963-74. The daughters knew nothing and what their mother knew was very confusing. At one stage of the discussion I mentioned some of the Greek Cypriot leadership's mistakes and all of a sudden this brought out the nationalist monster in my cousin who said: "Makarios' biggest mistake was not to have killed all the Turkish Cypriots in order for us to be comfortable".

This sweet and pretty woman, who couldn't even kill an ant, had suddenly turned into a killer who could carry out mass murders. She wanted a whole race to be wiped out. This is what I said to her: "In other words, do you mean taking out all the children from school, all mothers with their babies and all the men from their work places and taking them to a big hole in Messaria and murder them…Do you want to be one of the murders or the one of the persons using the bulldozer to cover the mass graves…"

What 'mass killings'? Is this what they told you at school to justify your thieving? And my point was that you stole the most beautiful and prosperous part of Cyprus and still live in poverty, dependent on handouts from Turkey, the EU and from the Republic of Cyprus. How embarrassing is that!

Mr John Alexander
"They stole the most beautiful and prosperous part of Cyprus"
If its to me, you will never see those parts ever again.
Thats the price you have to pay for Mass KILLINGS between 1963 to 1974

Look John, its not the TC's that are the problem, its the Soler's of this world, whether they are here, or in Cyprus. I hear this from TC's in Londonistan who say they can't stand them, and their culture is alien to the indegenous TC's, but I one cannot be certain that they are saying something totally different to them. But on the face of it, the TC's I know and grew up with are great.

Lets not forget, the TC's and the Anatolians rarely mix, don't look like each other, and the TC's rarely marry their cousins. But from what I have seen here in the uk, the indegenous TC's mix more with the GC's rather than their ilk from the hinterlands of Anatolia.

And one more thing, the majority of TC's are similar in looks to Greek Cypriots. Historical facts tell us that the majority are, after all, converted christians, whether Greek, Latin, Maronite or Catholics. Under the Ottomans, they converted to keep their land and pay less tax, ie, selling their souls, but our spiritual leaders did not embrace them in the early part of the last century when many Greek speaking but muslim villages wanted to return to the flock.

Yes, The Stars: I remember a UK government report a few years ago saying that Turks were the ethnic minority most dependent on welfare benefits. This doesn't surprise me, the way TCs boast about their 'TRNC' but when it comes to passports, handouts and free hospital care, all of a sudden they're citizens of the Republic of Cyprus. They stole the most beautiful and prosperous part of Cyprus and still they live in poverty. When GCs crossed into the occupied areas after 2003, they were shocked by how poor and backward the TCs were.

JT I fully agree with you. If the real powers of the world wanted this problem solved, it would have been solved long time agol

John Alexander@ You are well known for been a Greek nationalist and racist, arm chair politician in London.
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Turks are not going anywhere, we here to stay and we proved that last 36 years under so called (RoC) Greek Cyprus embargo.
Near future, we will be running ferry boat from Magosa to Athens via Crete.

GET OVER IT

Greeks no longer have a say in North Cyprus. These comments here confirm why there will still never be a solution. People say Turkey doesn't care about the TC's...but under the circumstances TRNC has done remarkebly well, and all thanks to Turkey too. The two options for TC's are; embrace a republic of cyprus that does not embrace them, or stay with Turkey. Hmm this is a tough one. Turks and Greeks lived peacefully side by side for hundreds of years, while under Turkish rule. However, look what happens when the Greeks get a little power...goes to their head, hatred for the old enemy together with their historical complexes steer their desires. Sad lot you are. You should have worked out by now Turks don't given in to you.
JT, you seem fascinated by your RoC passports and claim the TC's are desperate to join you. Perhaps you should ask a few why they have them. The answer is because the TURKS are co-founders of the Republic. Your governemnt pretends everything is OK for the Turks in the South. They have the best of both worlds; one world they can live in peace, the other world is your fantasy.
John & JT, your rehtoric is just boring and your dreams will turn into a nightmare for you. Wait and see.

After nearly 2 years of talking does anyone actually know what the terms of agreement are that Christofias wants or is negotiating for?

All we hear is that the TC terms are not acceptable.

What is acceptable?

If the UN begin to think that the terms that Christofias and the GC's want are unreasonable then they will start to pressurise him and we all know what reaction we will then get from the usual political suspects. (pram. toys, dummy and all that)

The UN will feed this position back to the EU and they may then decide that if the GC position is unreasonable this should not block progress of the ascension of Turkey into the EU.

This would remove the Ace from the GC pack of cards and we can all forget about the Cyprob for another 10 years.

Maybe that's the plan all along???